{"id":2172,"date":"2011-10-28T20:10:45","date_gmt":"2011-10-28T19:10:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/test.armeemuseum.ch\/?page_id=2172"},"modified":"2017-02-02T19:19:54","modified_gmt":"2017-02-02T18:19:54","slug":"der-weg-zur-gewehrpatrone-11-rueckblick","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/it\/der-weg-zur-gewehrpatrone-11-rueckblick\/","title":{"rendered":"Der Weg zur Gewehrpatrone 11 &#8211; R\u00fcckblick"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section admin_label=&#8221;section&#8221;][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;row&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;2_3&#8243;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Der Weg zur Gewehrpatrone 11, 100 Jahre Infanteriegewehr und Karabiner Ordonnanz 1911<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h4>R\u00fcckblick auf den Vortrag vom 27. Oktober 2011<\/h4>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_3&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Logo-VSAM-komprimiert.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;off&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;off&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;Zeile&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Warum entwickelte die Schweiz den bekannten Karabiner 11? Welchen Zusammenhang hatte dies mit der allseits bekannten GP11, der Standartpatrone w\u00e4hrend langen Jahrzehnten?<\/p>\n<p>Anton Zindel und Ulrich Stoller, zwei anerkannte Munitions- und Waffenspezialisten der Stiftung HAM, zeigten am Donnerstag, 27. Oktober, die 100-j\u00e4hrige Geschichte dieser Munition und der zugeh\u00f6rigen Waffen. W\u00e4hrend der Munitionsexperte Zindel die Entstehungsgeschichte schilderte und den Vergleich mit ausl\u00e4ndischer Munition machte sowie auf die hohe Leistungsf\u00e4higkeit der immer wieder verbesserten 7,5 mm GP11 hinwies, erkl\u00e4rte Stoller die Unterschiede der verschiedenen Modelle der Waffen des Systems 1911 und deren zahlreicher Varianten. Einen besonderen Platz nahmen dabei die in vielen Jahren verfolgten gemeinsamen Interessen von Armee und Sch\u00fctzen ein.<\/p>\n<p>Das Infanteriegewehr 11 und seltener den Karabiner 11 findet man als Einzelst\u00fccke auch noch bei Sportsch\u00fctzen im Einsatz, w\u00e4hrend die zugeh\u00f6rige Munition in ihrer Grundform noch heute nach hundert Jahren in der Armee Verwendung finde (z.B. Mg 51 auf Panzerfahrzeugen). Auch die Sportsch\u00fctzen w\u00fcrden den Wegfall dieser Munition bedauern, h\u00e4tte dies doch etliche Anpassungen bei den Waffen zur Folge. Henri Habegger vom Verein Schweizer Armeemuseum deutete an, dass die Armee im Bedarfsfall wohl kaum um eine Neuaufnahme der 1994 ausgelaufenen GP11-Produktion herumkommen werde.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;Zeile&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-006.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;off&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;off&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Anton Zindel, Fachspezialist f\u00fcr Munition<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-011.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;off&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;off&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Ulrich Stoller, Fachspezialist f\u00fcr Waffen<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_2&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-007.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;off&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;off&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Anton Zindel, Fachspezialist f\u00fcr Munition<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-012.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;off&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;off&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;light&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;left&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Ulrich Stoller, Fachspezialist f\u00fcr Waffen<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;Zeile&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-008.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;on&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-002.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;on&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; align=&#8221;left&#8221; force_fullwidth=&#8221;off&#8221; always_center_on_mobile=&#8221;on&#8221; use_border_color=&#8221;off&#8221; border_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; border_style=&#8221;solid&#8221;] [\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243;][et_pb_image admin_label=&#8221;Bild&#8221; src=&#8221;https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-009.jpg&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;off&#8221; use_overlay=&#8221;on&#8221; animation=&#8221;left&#8221; sticky=&#8221;off&#8221; 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Oktober 2011 Warum entwickelte die Schweiz den bekannten Karabiner 11? Welchen Zusammenhang hatte dies mit der allseits bekannten GP11, der Standartpatrone w\u00e4hrend langen Jahrzehnten? 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