{"id":21388,"date":"2017-10-07T17:28:56","date_gmt":"2017-10-07T16:28:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.armeemuseum.ch\/la-genese-de-la-cartouche-11-pour-fusil-100-ans-de-lordonnance-de-1911-sur-le-fusil-dinfanterie-et-la-carabine\/"},"modified":"2018-02-19T22:36:04","modified_gmt":"2018-02-19T21:36:04","slug":"la-genese-de-la-cartouche-11-pour-fusil-100-ans-de-lordonnance-de-1911-sur-le-fusil-dinfanterie-et-la-carabine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/fr\/la-genese-de-la-cartouche-11-pour-fusil-100-ans-de-lordonnance-de-1911-sur-le-fusil-dinfanterie-et-la-carabine\/","title":{"rendered":"La gen\u00e8se de la cartouche 11 pour fusil, 100 ans de l\u2019ordonnance de 1911 sur le fusil d\u2019infanterie et la carabine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbsection\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_row admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbrow\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb2_3&Prime;][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<h2><strong>La gen\u00e8se de la cartouche 11 pour fusil, 100 ans de l\u2019ordonnance de 1911 sur le fusil d\u2019infanterie et la carabine<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h4>Discours du 27 octobre 2011<\/h4>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_3&Prime;][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Logo-VSAM-komprimiert.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbZeile\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb4_4&Prime;][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\">Pourquoi la Suisse a-t-elle d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 la c\u00e9l\u00e8bre carabine 11 ? Quel rapport cela a-t-il avec la tr\u00e8s c\u00e9l\u00e8bre cartouche GP11, la cartouche standard pendant des d\u00e9cennies ?<\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\">Anton Zindel et Ulrich Stoller, deux sp\u00e9cialistes confirm\u00e9s en mati\u00e8re de munitions et d\u2019armes de la Fondation HAM, ont pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 le jeudi 27 octobre l\u2019histoire centenaire de cette munition et de l\u2019arme correspondante. Anton Zindel a retrac\u00e9 la gen\u00e8se de la munition, l\u2019a compar\u00e9e aux munitions \u00e9trang\u00e8res et a d\u00e9montr\u00e9 la performance \u00e9lev\u00e9e de la cartouche GP11 7,5 mm en perp\u00e9tuelle am\u00e9lioration. Ulrich Stoller, quant \u00e0 lui, a montr\u00e9 les diff\u00e9rences des divers mod\u00e8les d\u2019armes du syst\u00e8me 1911 et leurs nombreuses variantes. Elles ont occup\u00e9 une place particuli\u00e8re dans les int\u00e9r\u00eats communs de l\u2019arm\u00e9e et de la d\u00e9fense pendant de nombreuses ann\u00e9es.<\/p>\n<p class=\"bodytext\">On rencontre encore quelques exemplaires du fusil d\u2019infanterie 11 ou, plus rarement, de la carabine 11 lors de tirs sportifs ; les munitions correspondantes sous leur forme originale sont encore utilis\u00e9es aujourd\u2019hui, 100 ans apr\u00e8s, dans l\u2019arm\u00e9e (par ex. les mitrailleuses MG 51 sur v\u00e9hicules blind\u00e9s). Les tireurs sportifs regretteraient \u00e9galement la disparition de cette munition, car il en d\u00e9coulerait un bon nombre d\u2019adaptations \u00e0 faire sur les armes. Henri Habegger, de l\u2019Association du mus\u00e9e suisse de l\u2019arm\u00e9e, a indiqu\u00e9 qu\u2019en cas de n\u00e9cessit\u00e9 l\u2019arm\u00e9e ne pourrait probablement pas \u00e9viter une reprise de la production de la cartouche GP11, arr\u00eat\u00e9e en 1994.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbZeile\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_2&Prime;][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-006.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>\n Anton Zindel, sp\u00e9cialiste en mati\u00e8re de munitions\n <\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-011.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>Ulrich Stoller, sp\u00e9cialiste en mati\u00e8re d&rsquo;armes<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_2&Prime;][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-007.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>\n Anton Zindel, sp\u00e9cialiste en mati\u00e8re de munitions\n <\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-012.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbText\u00a0\u00bb background_layout=\u00a0\u00bblight\u00a0\u00bb text_orientation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>Ulrich Stoller, sp\u00e9cialiste en mati\u00e8re d&rsquo;armes<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbZeile\u00a0\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_4&Prime;][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-008.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb border_color=\u00a0\u00bb#ffffff\u00a0\u00bb border_style=\u00a0\u00bbsolid\u00a0\u00bb] [\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00a0\u00bb1_4&Prime;][et_pb_image admin_label=\u00a0\u00bbBild\u00a0\u00bb src=\u00a0\u00bbhttps:\/\/armeemuseum.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/06\/Vortrag_C-002.jpg\u00a0\u00bb show_in_lightbox=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb url_new_window=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb use_overlay=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb animation=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb sticky=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb align=\u00a0\u00bbleft\u00a0\u00bb force_fullwidth=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb always_center_on_mobile=\u00a0\u00bbon\u00a0\u00bb use_border_color=\u00a0\u00bboff\u00a0\u00bb 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cartouche 11 pour fusil, 100 ans de l\u2019ordonnance de 1911 sur le fusil d\u2019infanterie et la carabine Discours du 27 octobre 2011 Pourquoi la Suisse a-t-elle d\u00e9velopp\u00e9 la c\u00e9l\u00e8bre carabine 11 ? Quel rapport cela a-t-il avec la tr\u00e8s c\u00e9l\u00e8bre cartouche GP11, la cartouche standard pendant des d\u00e9cennies ? 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